Posts by label licker

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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.

label licker

I just passed the videos onto my seventy year old sister who gave her whole life to this wretched org. Her words were she is floored and just can't believe this. She said none of this glorifies Jehovah but only glamorises him and stumbles others. She is shocked. Thank you everyone for this. This is the kind of information I need to send to my sister and to get her out of this horrid nightmare. Bit by bit she is waking up but it seems to be taking for ever. I hope this is the bullet that bites the dust for her but I doubt it.

LL

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some changes need to be made

by venting in

jw
friends

but im still in and on the fence.

" remember who owns the fence?".

shunning needs to be tempered.

label licker

Poor you. You must be sitting on a barbed wired fence if your still in the cult:) Get off or you'll be ripped to shreds my friend.

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COBE cannot be 80 or more

by fader77 in

a new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.

label licker

At one time the CO would leave it up to the BOE to decide for themselves on any decisions that would be made, at least that's what our CO said to me about my so called public reproving. That if all the BOE's agree, then, he can't interfere.

I find this amusing in the least. You see, our Cobe is the biggest arrogant person you would want to meet. I could see these elders wanting to keep him on but now they have no say. It's up to the CO to add or delete elders. But now not even the CO has any say in the matter.

All this label licking to become something in this cult while abusing others in the process. Looks good on all of them. They are getting their rewards in full. They have no voice in anything whether a CO, Cobe, Elder, Ministerial Servant or Pioneer.

LL

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The do not call list

by LisaRose in

jw
friends

i have posted before about my experience trying to get on the "do not call" list.

despite repeated requests, a phone call to the hall and mailing a letter, and then giving a copy to a jw, they just keep coming by.

i was going to put up a no soliciting sign, then i can call the police on them, but my husband doesn't want me to do it.. so, i decided if they come back i would have some fun.

label licker

Over here we have no trespassing signs. They will not come on the property or they know they can be charged.

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Daniel chapter 9

by Doug Mason in

i have scanned daniel chapter 9 as it is rendered in english by the hebrew tanakh (masoretic text - mt) and by the greek septuagint (lxx).. http://www.jwstudies.com/daniel_9_in_mt_and_in_lxx.pdf.

read verses 24 to 27 carefully.. doug.

label licker

Is it the word septet? May not be a week but seven members? Just wondering:)

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Get well Grace (Mouthy)

by label licker in

jw
friends

a loud get well grace from all of us to you.

everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.

we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.

label licker

A loud get well Grace from all of us to you. Everyone, Grace has been in and out of the hospital and I'm sure she would love to read your get wells. We miss you Grace:) Wish I could post pictures.

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Midday Vent

by mrhhome in

jw
friends

i know that this is a statement of the obvious, but i am wasting my time trying to have an honest discussion with my in-law witnesses.. it is absolutely amazing.

they are otherwise intelligent, rational, honest people.

however if you get remotely close to a subject that requires that they evaluate their beliefs or challenge the witness policy, they will repeatedly dodge it, twist it, or otherwise ignore it.

label licker

My sister is seventy years old and gave her whole life to the org.(pioneered and special pioneered since she was sixteen). She could always see through the faults of the elders and not link their hypocracy and favortism to the cult's doctrinal training. I tried dropping a few little bombs her way and the first time she said I was shaking her faith and hung up. She wouldn't answer her phone for almost eight months.

Recently, I told her to show me where it reads new scrolls. I told her about all the new changes and the one about tithing. I could read her the first page and then she didn't want to hear anything negative anymore. What was negative was the letter that I was reading her and it offended her but somehow she linked the negativity back to the one that was reading it which was me. I never run down the org for then she would take it as though I was insulting her. I told her it wasn't negative what I was reading but just the four page letter from the society . I could only read the second page and she made me stop. A month later she asked me if I could send her all the governing body letters that I have been reading and if I could send her all the society's publications from when they started to now. I did. She sent me a message saying thank you for your hard work of researching but I don't think I will pursue this any further. I'm hoping she is reading them all. I even sent her the elders manual.

This is a gal who never got married and lives alone on welfare assistance. She lives on six hundred dollars per month. She has no one. She already told me that she knows my husband is a good man but she has to follow theocratic procedure. (He's df'd) This just breaks my heart how she will let me go so far in helping her like sending her money to help her out and information on this cult but then runs and hides. Her health is really poor but refuses to come and let us look after her.

I really do feel for you and I get it. Our hands are tied for the moment.

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

label licker

$500.00 per month "and we should be happy at that amount since we were sending in $800.00 per month before this new loving arrangement kicked in" as it was mentioned from the platform. Also, ten thousand was taken out of the account and a loan of fifteen thousand. A total of twenty-five thousand which was to be donated to a new hall build which that hall announced they didn't need so the congregation doesn't know where it ended up an no one seems to ask or is too afraid to ask where their money went

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Society money grab tonight

by Red Piller in

wow.

you read about it here.

but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.

label licker

Our last hall has to pay a total of five hundred per month. Ten thousand was handed over along with a recent loan that was borrowed from society of fifteen thousand dollars. All that money was supposedly donated to another hall. That hall was sold and a new one built. Afterwards a talk was given stating that they didn't need our donation of twenty-five thousand dollars but since then there has been no mention as to what happened to that money. (In a previous post the amount was thought to be twenty-one thousand but it is twenty-five thousand)

When the brother made the announcement of the congregation only having to pay five hundred per month, he added that they can be happy at that amount since they were paying eight hundred dollars per month to pay the loan off. People aren't buying it. The few that still talk to us are not donating. Still, people aren't getting the fact that even though they don't have to pay off a loan, they are indebted indefinitely.

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It is so obviously a lie......now

by snare&racket in

once the spell is broken, one you take a deep fresh breath outisde of the watchtower camp, the amazingly obvious realisation becomes clear.... of course this is a lie, of course this is ridiculous!

you find you have memories of really believing the claims and promises, but it seems like another life, another experience.

it seems so incredibly false once you leave and it is very difficult to belive you even once accepted it!

label licker

How true! About the gambling, it took me no more than fifteen minutes to win $2,400.00 and I was hooked. It was hard to leave the building once the gambling fever had set in. I swore to myself that was my first and last time I would go into a casino. Wish it would have been that easy to do the same with the cult but every time a new and improved reward was thrown at us, we would stay for another round. That watchtower wheel never stopped spinning out new and improved winnings/losts.